{"id":2864,"date":"2014-12-23T11:17:32","date_gmt":"2014-12-23T10:17:32","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/stg-blogs.bmj.com\/medical-ethics\/?p=2864"},"modified":"2014-12-23T11:17:32","modified_gmt":"2014-12-23T10:17:32","slug":"a-bit-more-on-nonhuman-persons","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/stg-blogs.bmj.com\/medical-ethics\/2014\/12\/23\/a-bit-more-on-nonhuman-persons\/","title":{"rendered":"A Bit More on Nonhuman Persons"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>A bit of a followup to my <a href=\"https:\/\/stg-blogs.bmj.com\/medical-ethics\/2014\/12\/19\/rights-duties-and-species\/\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff\">last post<\/span><\/a>: sometimes, <span style=\"color: #0000ff\"><a style=\"color: #0000ff\" href=\"http:\/\/www.independent.co.uk\/news\/world\/americas\/sandra-the-orangutan-inside-argentina-zoo-granted-human-rights-in-landmark-ruling-9940202.html\">nonhumans\u00a0<em>are<\/em> granted\u00a0<em>habeas corpus<\/em><\/a><\/span>:<\/p>\n<div class=\"widget storyContent article widget-editable viziwyg-section-1024 inpage-widget-8939454 articleContent\">\n<blockquote><p>Orangutans have been granted the status of &#8220;non-human persons&#8221; with legal rights in a landmark court ruling in Argentina. The decision clears the way for Sandra, a shy 29-year-old, to be freed from Buenos Aires Zoo after spending her entire life in captivity. [&#8230;]<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"widget storyContent article widget-editable viziwyg-section-1024 inpage-widget-6138699 articleContent\">\n<div class=\"body \">\n<blockquote><p>The ruling came after animal rights campaigners filed a\u00a0<em>habeas corpus<\/em>\u00a0petition \u2013 a document more typically used to challenge the legality of a person\u2019s detention or imprisonment \u2013 on behalf of the Sumatran orangutan, who was born at a German zoo and was transferred to Buenos Aires two decades ago.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>Sandra will, unless there&#8217;s a successful appeal, be moved from the zoo to a sanctuary.<\/p>\n<p>In practice,\u00a0this might not make all that much difference. \u00a0She&#8217;ll still be confined in a sanctuary; it would\u00a0be utterly indefensible just to turf her out onto the streets, and she wouldn&#8217;t last long. \u00a0And in some cases, it&#8217;s quite possible that a well-run zoo is the best possible place in which to look after her or others like her. \u00a0Zoo, sanctuary: tomayto, tomahto. \u00a0Meh.<\/p>\n<p>What matters primarily is that a point of principle is established, and secondarily that there would be some guidance about the kind of facilities that would be minimally decent. \u00a0It&#8217;s likely to be wholly acceptable, morally and legally,\u00a0to keep great apes in some form of captivity if it&#8217;s in their interests, in rather the same way that we might provide a human child or an adult with an intellectual disability with sheltered or supervised accommodation, and might even limit their time away from it. \u00a0(The family home is a kind of sheltered and supervised accommodation!) \u00a0If a creature &#8211; human or orang or chimp or whatever else\u00a0&#8211;\u00a0can&#8217;t deal with the world around them, that seems to be morally required. \u00a0Let&#8217;s call this &#8220;soft captivity&#8221;, as opposed to the &#8220;hard&#8221; captivity of some zoos, prisons, laboratories, and so on. \u00a0The point is that, rather as\u00a0we wouldn&#8217;t deny that a child or adult disabled human is a person and thus protected by the law, it does seem reasonable to extend that protection to members of other species.<\/p>\n<p>I wonder how much further we could push it: it&#8217;s one thing to have a great ape in soft captivity for its own protection; and it&#8217;s one thing to say that\u00a0<em>if<\/em> a great ape is in captivity, it ought to be soft captivity. \u00a0But could we make a similar claim about keeping a member of a species in soft captivity for the sake of protecting the species?<\/p>\n<p>Orangs are under threat. \u00a0Now, a threat to the species is almost always a threat to the members of the species, too &#8211; and so we would almost always be unable to distinguish acting to protect individual orangs and the species as a whole. \u00a0But this needn&#8217;t be the case. \u00a0Imagine that there are two small colonies of the animal left; a\u00a0genetic bottleneck means that neither is viable on its own, but, if they were combined, the species may be rescued and flourish in the future. \u00a0Furthermore, each colony is in a confined area that cannot support a bigger population. \u00a0There is no direct threat to either colony, though. \u00a0It so happens that a busy road separates the colonies, which means that they are to all intents and purposes isolated.<\/p>\n<p>Would it be permissible to swing into action to take all these orangs into a sufficiently big sanctuary, and maybe to keep them there for the sake of increasing the population? \u00a0It wouldn&#8217;t obviously be in the interests of any particular living orang; but it could be in the interests of the species. \u00a0Even if the captivity is soft, it is still captivity. \u00a0Would it be justified?<\/p>\n<p>Part of me thinks that it might be; but this does rely on thinking that the species\u00a0<em>qua\u00a0<\/em>species has a moral value and interest, aside from the value and interest of its members. \u00a0And that does seem like a bit of a stretch &#8211; especially if (as seems plausible) individual orangs have no concept of species with which they can identify.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Admittedly, this isn&#8217;t a medical ethics post in the strict sense &#8211; but it&#8217;s a nice story, so ner.<!--TrendMD v2.4.8--><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A bit of a followup to my last post: sometimes, nonhumans\u00a0are granted\u00a0habeas corpus: Orangutans have been granted the status of &#8220;non-human persons&#8221; with legal rights in a landmark court ruling in Argentina. 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