{"id":2509,"date":"2013-07-17T17:02:49","date_gmt":"2013-07-17T16:02:49","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/stg-blogs.bmj.com\/medical-ethics\/?p=2509"},"modified":"2013-07-17T17:04:20","modified_gmt":"2013-07-17T16:04:20","slug":"news-from-wisconsin-its-not-ok-if-your-child-dies-even-if-youre-praying","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/stg-blogs.bmj.com\/medical-ethics\/2013\/07\/17\/news-from-wisconsin-its-not-ok-if-your-child-dies-even-if-youre-praying\/","title":{"rendered":"News from Wisconsin: It&#8217;s not OK if your Child Dies, even if you&#8217;re Praying"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>(Note: I wrote this a couple of weeks ago, but didn&#8217;t actually post it for some reason.\u00a0 I&#8217;ve no idea why it&#8217;s taken me so long.\u00a0 But it&#8217;s here now&#8230;)<\/p>\n<p>Via Facebook a couple of weeks ago, I came across\u00a0<span style=\"text-decoration: underline\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff\"><a href=\"http:\/\/news.yahoo.com\/court-upholds-parents-convictions-prayer-death-123307685.html\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;text-decoration: underline\">this story<\/span><\/a><\/span><\/span>, about a couple whose conviction over the death\u00a0of their child has been upheld:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>A mother and father who prayed instead of seeking medical help as their daughter died were properly convicted of homicide, the Wisconsin Supreme Court ruled Wednesday in a decision that dramatically limits legal immunity for parents who turn to God rather than science to heal their children.<\/p>\n<p>[&#8230;]<\/p>\n<p>Most states, including Wisconsin, created exemptions from child abuse charges for prayer-healing parents in the 1970s to meet federal requirements.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>That last sentence is one I find pretty astonishing; and I thought it worth having a dig around to see what I could learn about Wisconsin&#8217;s laws in particular.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff\"><a href=\"https:\/\/docs.legis.wisconsin.gov\/statutes\/statutes\/448\/II\/03\/6\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;text-decoration: underline\">This one<\/span><\/a><\/span><\/span> sets the scene:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong>Practice of Christian Science.<\/strong>\u00a0No law of this state regulating the practice of medicine and surgery may be construed to interfere with the practice of Christian Science. A person who elects Christian Science treatment in lieu of medical or surgical treatment for the cure of disease may not be compelled to submit to medical or surgical treatment.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I&#8217;m puzzled by the particular emphasis here.\u00a0 Does Christian Science have a big following in Wisconsin? \u00a0Why does it get special mention? \u00a0Still: I guess that the gist of the law is unobjectionable &#8211; it says, in effect, that a person with capacity\u00a0mayn&#8217;t have treatment forced on them, which is fair enough. \u00a0We might even infer that the person who drafted the law thought Christian Science so daft that it needed to be spelled out explicitly that people invoking it have capacity, whatever the appearance.<\/p>\n<p>Still: electing to refuse treatment is one thing; refusing it on behalf of another is another. \u00a0It&#8217;s at this point that things get a bit weird. \u00a0<span style=\"text-decoration: underline\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff\"><a href=\"https:\/\/docs.legis.wisconsin.gov\/statutes\/statutes\/48\/XX\/981\/3\/c\/4\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;text-decoration: underline\">This law<\/span><\/a><\/span><\/span>, for example, states that<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>[a] determination that abuse or neglect has occurred may not be based solely on the fact that the child&#8217;s parent, guardian, or legal custodian in good faith selects and relies on prayer or other religious means for treatment of disease or for remedial care of the child.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>And this feeds\u00a0<span style=\"text-decoration: underline;color: #0000ff\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline\"><a href=\"https:\/\/docs.legis.wisconsin.gov\/statutes\/statutes\/948\/03\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;color: #0000ff\">into the statute<\/span><\/a><\/span><\/span>\u00a0that is, as far as I can see,\u00a0most relevant to the Neumanns&#8217; case, with \u00a76 being particularly noteworthy:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Treatment through prayer.\u00a0A person is not guilty of an offense under this section solely because he or she provides a child with treatment by spiritual means through prayer alone for healing in accordance with the religious method of healing permitted under\u00a0s.\u00a0<a title=\"Statutes 48.981(3)(c)4.\" href=\"https:\/\/docs.legis.wisconsin.gov\/document\/statutes\/48.981(3)(c)4.\" rel=\"statutes\/48.981(3)(c)4.\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;text-decoration: underline\">48.981 (3) (c) 4<\/span><\/span>.<\/a>\u00a0or\u00a0<span style=\"text-decoration: underline\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff\"><a title=\"Statutes 448.03(6)\" href=\"https:\/\/docs.legis.wisconsin.gov\/document\/statutes\/448.03(6)\" rel=\"statutes\/448.03(6)\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;text-decoration: underline\">448.03 (6)<\/span><\/a><\/span><\/span>\u00a0in lieu of medical or surgical treatment.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Crikey.\u00a0 I don&#8217;t know how that&#8217;s justifiable.\u00a0 I mean, it&#8217;s one thing to say that families have the right to function as they will, and that parents have the right to raise their children as they see fit.\u00a0 I&#8217;m not sure that they do (morally, I mean, not legally)\u00a0&#8211; but even if they <em>do<\/em> have such a right, one would have thought that it has limits.\u00a0 It&#8217;s not hard to think of lurid examples of where the &#8220;right&#8221; might run out.\u00a0 But it&#8217;s tempting to think that praying instead of seeking treatment that, y&#8217;know, has a good evidential basis, might be a straightforward and non-lurid instance of the right petering out. \u00a0&#8220;Treatment by spiritual means&#8221; is a bit rum, too.<\/p>\n<p>If you&#8217;ve got certain convictions, you shouldn&#8217;t be surprised if you end up with a second conviction of\u00a0 a quite different sort.<\/p>\n<p>Charles Foster ponders the case <span style=\"text-decoration: underline\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff\"><a href=\"http:\/\/blog.practicalethics.ox.ac.uk\/2013\/07\/punishing-fundamentalists\/\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;text-decoration: underline\">here<\/span><\/a><\/span><\/span>.<!--TrendMD v2.4.8--><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>(Note: I wrote this a couple of weeks ago, but didn&#8217;t actually post it for some reason.\u00a0 I&#8217;ve no idea why it&#8217;s taken me so long.\u00a0 But it&#8217;s here now&#8230;) Via Facebook a couple of weeks ago, I came across\u00a0this story, about a couple whose conviction over the death\u00a0of their child has been upheld: A [&#8230;]<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"btn btn-secondary understrap-read-more-link\" href=\"https:\/\/stg-blogs.bmj.com\/medical-ethics\/2013\/07\/17\/news-from-wisconsin-its-not-ok-if-your-child-dies-even-if-youre-praying\/\">Read More&#8230;<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[2146,511,591],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2509","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-in-the-courts","category-in-the-news","category-life-and-death"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/stg-blogs.bmj.com\/medical-ethics\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2509","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/stg-blogs.bmj.com\/medical-ethics\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/stg-blogs.bmj.com\/medical-ethics\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stg-blogs.bmj.com\/medical-ethics\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stg-blogs.bmj.com\/medical-ethics\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2509"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/stg-blogs.bmj.com\/medical-ethics\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2509\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/stg-blogs.bmj.com\/medical-ethics\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2509"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stg-blogs.bmj.com\/medical-ethics\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2509"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stg-blogs.bmj.com\/medical-ethics\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2509"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}