{"id":185,"date":"2009-09-20T12:44:37","date_gmt":"2009-09-20T11:44:37","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/stg-blogs.bmj.com\/medical-ethics\/?p=185"},"modified":"2009-09-20T12:44:37","modified_gmt":"2009-09-20T11:44:37","slug":"david-hockney-up-in-smoke","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/stg-blogs.bmj.com\/medical-ethics\/2009\/09\/20\/david-hockney-up-in-smoke\/","title":{"rendered":"David Hockney, up in Smoke"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>David Hockney has been <a href=\"http:\/\/news.bbc.co.uk\/1\/hi\/uk\/8265156.stm\">talking to the BBC<\/a> about the UK&#8217;s smoking ban: he&#8217;s not a fan, and suggests that there ought to be &#8220;smoking rooms&#8221; available. \u00a0It&#8217;s not the first time that he&#8217;s gone public in his opposition to the ban &#8211; a few years ago he was interviewed on the <em>Today<\/em> programme and spent his time banging on about how the ban was &#8220;destroying bohemia&#8221; &#8211; because, clearly, sitting in a smoky pub is a necessary condition of artistic achievement. \u00a0Take away the smoke, and the talent vanishes. \u00a0Or something. \u00a0In actual fact, he just sounded like a very confused and crotchety old man.<\/p>\n<p>I suppose that Hockney&#8217;s position is broadly libertarian &#8211; in the interview on the link I provided above, he makes accusations about governmental paternalism. \u00a0If it is the case that the smoking ban is paternalistic, then he may have a point: though I think that there are times when paternalism is warranted (and I&#8217;m certainly suspicious of the kneejerk &#8220;paternalism=wrong&#8221; response that you sometimes see in bioethics), I can also see the arguments against it. \u00a0However, I simply disagree that the ban is all that paternalistic: yes, it does make smoking that bit less attractive when it&#8217;s cold and rainy outside; but a concerted paternalism would have meant that smoking was also banned in open spaces and, where possible, in private. \u00a0(Escalating the tax on fags, by contrast, may be more straightforwardly paternalistic; the acceptability of doing so is for debate at another time, though.)<\/p>\n<p>One of the better arguments for a ban &#8211; and one that Hockney doesn&#8217;t address &#8211; is motivated by a concern for the people who&#8217;d have to work at one of these smokers&#8217; havens.<!--more--> Here I speak from some experience: I&#8217;ve spent the best part of 13 years working a bar (and can still be found pulling pints <a href=\"http:\/\/www.newvictheatre.org.uk\/v3_5w\/food.html\">here<\/a> on occasion). \u00a0You can invoke the harm principle all you want, but it won&#8217;t generate a right to smoke, because indoor smoking is unequivocally nasty for people around you; and if those people around you have to be there because it&#8217;s their job, then they don&#8217;t have much choice. \u00a0Working behind a bar isn&#8217;t a dangerous occupation in the way that, say, mining is: you can&#8217;t take the dust from a mine, but you can take the smoke from a bar. \u00a0Smoke isn&#8217;t essential to having or serving a drink. \u00a0And this, I think, is a knock-down argument in favour of the ban.<\/p>\n<p>Bluntly, when I was behind the bar, I&#8217;d sooner have had people shooting up than smoking, because it&#8217;s easier to avoid the noxious effects of injecting. \u00a0When we went smoke-free at the New Vic a couple of years ahead of the ban, the difference was obvious and welcome &#8211; my throat was less tickly, and my clothes stank less. \u00a0And I only worked a few nights a week; there are those who&#8217;re dependent on bar jobs and other such sources of income who&#8217;re put at risk unnecessarily by passive smoking and who presumably had a much worse time of it. \u00a0Hockney&#8217;d want his smokers&#8217; rooms attended to, I presume; but employers would also have an obligation not to put staff at risk or inconvenience. \u00a0You can&#8217;t have it both ways. \u00a0(That point extends to staff who smoke themselves: just because you put your own health in danger, it doesn&#8217;t follow that it&#8217;s OK for others to put your health in danger too, any more than it&#8217;s OK for me to shoot a suicidal person.)<\/p>\n<p>Nor would it do to insist that people behind bars have a choice to work somewhere else: they don&#8217;t. \u00a0Bar work is, for some, convenient and the best possible source of income. \u00a0It&#8217;s often not something about which people get a choice, too &#8211; it&#8217;s one of the few jobs that demands fairly little in the way of qualifications. \u00a0Finally, it&#8217;s not as if a potential barworker can choose between smoking and non-smoking establishments; he has to follow the vacancies, and no bar manager in his right mind would turn away smokers to competitors. \u00a0(At the New Vic we had the advantage of a captive audience, so we could afford to take the risk. \u00a0But we noticed the difference when it came to people staying behind post show. \u00a0A unilateral smoking ban in a conventional bar wouldn&#8217;t be an option.)<\/p>\n<p>Having designated smokers&#8217; rooms looks at first glance like a nice, liberal way of attending to smokers&#8217; wishes. \u00a0But it is no such thing. \u00a0You might love Hockney&#8217;s work as a painter &#8211; but when it comes to matters such as this, he&#8217;s really not up to much.<!--TrendMD v2.4.8--><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>David Hockney has been talking to the BBC about the UK&#8217;s smoking ban: he&#8217;s not a fan, and suggests that there ought to be &#8220;smoking rooms&#8221; 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