{"id":132,"date":"2009-06-13T12:31:36","date_gmt":"2009-06-13T11:31:36","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/stg-blogs.bmj.com\/medical-ethics\/?p=132"},"modified":"2009-06-13T12:31:36","modified_gmt":"2009-06-13T11:31:36","slug":"in-this-months-jme","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/stg-blogs.bmj.com\/medical-ethics\/2009\/06\/13\/in-this-months-jme\/","title":{"rendered":"In this Month&#8217;s JME"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I have to admit that I&#8217;m a bit suspicious of empirical work in ethics: my general instinct is to be less interested in what people <em>actually<\/em> think or do or want than in what they <em>ought<\/em> to think or do or want.\u00a0 But it&#8217;s also true that empirical work can confirm or cast doubt on predictions about how a moral claim or policy is received or implemented\u00a0&#8211; it has a role to play in assessing &#8220;pure&#8221; &#8211; or &#8220;armchair&#8221;, if you prefer &#8211; ethics.\u00a0 It can help us\u00a0survey the ethical landscape.\u00a0 And, every now and then, it can reveal something that makes you go <em>wow<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/jme.bmj.com\/cgi\/content\/full\/35\/6\/337\">Rosie Steele&#8217;s paper in this latest <em>JME<\/em><\/a> is one of those.\u00a0 It compares attitudes to abortion among medical students\u00a0in Northern Ireland and Norway, and there&#8217;s some incredible results.\u00a0 Of cultural interest is the number of students in either case who profess a religious belief.\u00a0 Now, that Norn Iron should have more people describing themselves as religious than Norway isn&#8217;t entirely a surprise: anyone who&#8217;s even half awake has probably noticed that religion plays\u00a0a bigger part in everyday life in Ulster than in most other places.\u00a0 But it&#8217;s nevertheless a surprise to see just how big the difference is: almost half of the Oslo students claimed no religious affliliation, while only 5% of those in Belfast made a similar claim.<\/p>\n<p>That abortions are much harder to get in Northern Ireland than in Norway doubtless goes some way to explain the finding that &#8220;students at [Oslo] were much more likely to have seen an abortion during their training than those at [Belfast]&#8221; &#8211; there&#8217;re fewer to see, I&#8217;d guess.\u00a0 Nevertheless,<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>[h]alf of the students at [Belfast] would be unwilling to watch an abortion. However, the [Belfast] students stated that abortion had not been adequately covered during their medical school teaching.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>This is interesting for a couple of reasons.\u00a0 One has to do with the question of willingness, and what difference that makes.\u00a0 Granted that it&#8217;s hard to <em>force<\/em> students to observe a given procedure, there&#8217;s still an interesting question to be asked about the scope of the right to opt out.\u00a0 Would it be permissible to say, &#8220;You want to be a medic; this is a medical procedure; your private conscience cannot hold the curriculum hostage&#8221;, or should there be an opt-out for students who don&#8217;t want to learn about things? \u00a0(<a href=\"http:\/\/news.bbc.co.uk\/1\/hi\/health\/7018025.stm\">Or to practice them<\/a>, for that matter&#8230;)\u00a0 After all, it&#8217;s possible\u00a0that at some stage in a doctor&#8217;s career there&#8217;ll be cause to perform an abortion &#8211; possibly\u00a0in an emergency situation, for example &#8211; and it\u00a0doesn&#8217;t seem too wild\u00a0to suppose that at least a basic idea of what goes where is the sort of thing that we might expect.\u00a0 I do wonder how students expect to be better taught about abortion if they&#8217;re unwilling to observe one, too &#8211; although that musing is tempered by the thought that, perhaps, if there was better or more teaching about the procedure they&#8217;d be more willing at least to observe it in practice.<\/p>\n<p>Steele&#8217;s paper concludes:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>This study demonstrates considerable differences in attitudes between medical students at [Oslo] and [Belfast], with 78.2% of the [Oslo] students being pro-abortion versus only 14.3% of the [Belfast] students. The majority of participants from [Oslo] were in favour of abortion for all scenarios relating to the mother and fetus. Students at [Belfast] seemed to agree more readily with abortion when they did not perceive the situation to be the woman\u2019s responsibility\u2014for example, when there is a threat to her life or health or she has been a raped. For less serious conditions relating to mother and fetus, the [Belfast] students were less likely to be in favour of abortion. These differences probably reflect the differing religious, legal and educational experiences of the two groups of students.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The nice thing about a blog is that I can speculate without having to produce too much evidence &#8211; and so I&#8217;ll end by responding to that conclusion with one word:\u00a0<em>Probably<\/em>?<!--TrendMD v2.4.8--><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I have to admit that I&#8217;m a bit suspicious of empirical work in ethics: my general instinct is to be less interested in what people actually think or do or want than in what they ought to think or do or want.\u00a0 But it&#8217;s also true that empirical work can confirm or cast doubt on [&#8230;]<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"btn btn-secondary understrap-read-more-link\" href=\"https:\/\/stg-blogs.bmj.com\/medical-ethics\/2009\/06\/13\/in-this-months-jme\/\">Read More&#8230;<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-132","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/stg-blogs.bmj.com\/medical-ethics\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/132","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/stg-blogs.bmj.com\/medical-ethics\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/stg-blogs.bmj.com\/medical-ethics\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stg-blogs.bmj.com\/medical-ethics\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stg-blogs.bmj.com\/medical-ethics\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=132"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/stg-blogs.bmj.com\/medical-ethics\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/132\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/stg-blogs.bmj.com\/medical-ethics\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=132"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stg-blogs.bmj.com\/medical-ethics\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=132"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stg-blogs.bmj.com\/medical-ethics\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=132"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}