{"id":792,"date":"2013-12-15T20:21:24","date_gmt":"2013-12-15T19:21:24","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/stg-blogs.bmj.com\/adc\/?p=792"},"modified":"2013-12-02T10:51:38","modified_gmt":"2013-12-02T09:51:38","slug":"basics-size-vs-bias","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/stg-blogs.bmj.com\/adc\/2013\/12\/15\/basics-size-vs-bias\/","title":{"rendered":"Basics. Size vs. bias"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>There&#8217;s a beautifully clear <a href=\"http:\/\/ebm.bmj.com\/content\/early\/2013\/11\/26\/eb-2013-101610.full\">explanation behind the BMJ-EBM-journal paywall <\/a>of a concept I&#8217;ve been struggling to express for some time, which is partly there in <a title=\"GRADE it.\" href=\"https:\/\/stg-blogs.bmj.com\/adc\/2013\/04\/03\/grade-it\/\">GRADE<\/a>\u00a0and partly grounded in common sense.<\/p>\n<p>Take the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/pmc\/articles\/PMC300808\/\">parachute argument<\/a> &#8212; do you really need an RCT for parachutes (as there are survivors of non-&#8216;chuted \u00a0falls) &#8212; and reductio ad absurdium leaps to &#8216;so all EBM is bunk&#8217;. As<a title=\"Where does EBM go without E?\" href=\"https:\/\/stg-blogs.bmj.com\/adc\/2013\/08\/28\/where-does-ebm-go-without-e\/\"> discussed earlier<\/a>, EBM is not all RCT so the particular strawman here fires brightly away from anything meaningful, but is does illuminate a problem. What about situations where non-RCT evidence is good enough?<\/p>\n<p>The &#8216;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/pmc\/articles\/PMC3503923\/\">mothers kiss<\/a>&#8216; for nostrilly based crayons is a good example. It works; so why do an RCT? Well, it&#8217;s not just that &#8211; it works, and it&#8217;s unlikely to cause harm, and it&#8217;s a situation where the crayon&#8217;s not coming out on its own &#8211; so why do an RCT?<\/p>\n<p>To frame it alternatively, &#8220;what biases would have to be present in these observational studies, and how large would these biases have to be, in order to invalidate the result?&#8221; If the answer to this is SO large you wouldn&#8217;t believe it was possible, then you don&#8217;t need an RCT. The smaller the proposed effect size, the greater the need for randomised trial data. As a rule of thumb, if the effect is a relative risk of &gt;5 (or &lt;0.2 aka &lt; 1\/5th) \u00a0then you&#8217;ll be happy with good observational data. The closer it gets to &gt;2 \/ &lt;0.5, the more and more possible a biased explanation of the result is.<\/p>\n<p>To shorthand &#8211; appraise your evidence (i.e. assess the size of the threats to validity), evaluate the importance of the effect, and ask how closely it fits your PICO &#8211; don&#8217;t go all SR = 1a and CaseStudy = 4 on us.<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; Archi<!--TrendMD v2.4.8--><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>There&#8217;s a beautifully clear explanation behind the BMJ-EBM-journal paywall of a concept I&#8217;ve been struggling to express for some time, which is partly there in GRADE\u00a0and partly grounded in common sense. Take the parachute argument &#8212; do you really need an RCT for parachutes (as there are survivors of non-&#8216;chuted \u00a0falls) &#8212; and reductio ad [&#8230;]<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"btn btn-secondary understrap-read-more-link\" href=\"https:\/\/stg-blogs.bmj.com\/adc\/2013\/12\/15\/basics-size-vs-bias\/\">Read More&#8230;<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[79],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-792","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-archimedes"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/stg-blogs.bmj.com\/adc\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/792","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/stg-blogs.bmj.com\/adc\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/stg-blogs.bmj.com\/adc\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stg-blogs.bmj.com\/adc\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stg-blogs.bmj.com\/adc\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=792"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/stg-blogs.bmj.com\/adc\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/792\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/stg-blogs.bmj.com\/adc\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=792"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stg-blogs.bmj.com\/adc\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=792"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stg-blogs.bmj.com\/adc\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=792"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}