{"id":332,"date":"2013-02-27T20:15:07","date_gmt":"2013-02-27T19:15:07","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/stg-blogs.bmj.com\/adc-archimedes\/?p=332"},"modified":"2013-02-27T23:18:44","modified_gmt":"2013-02-27T22:18:44","slug":"nsaids-cause-ulcers-dog-bites-man","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/stg-blogs.bmj.com\/adc\/2013\/02\/27\/nsaids-cause-ulcers-dog-bites-man\/","title":{"rendered":"NSAIDs cause ulcers. Dog bites man?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft\" alt=\"\" src=\"http:\/\/www.cochrane.org\/sites\/default\/files\/uploads\/images\/cclogo85x100.gif\" width=\"85\" height=\"100\" \/> There&#8217;s something to be said for papers that state the obvious. That&#8217;s generally that it&#8217;s not actually obvious until it&#8217;s been shown to be the case, &#8217;cause it always might have been different. (For those of you who struggle with the idea about studying the obvious, have listen to this superb paper by Ruth Gilbert about <a href=\"http:\/\/www.cochrane.org\/multimedia\/multimedia-cochrane-colloquia-and-meetings\/opening-austrian-cochrane-branch-december-20-2\">sleeping position and SIDS<\/a>.)<\/p>\n<p>Take NSAIDs and ulcers in children. <!--more-->In adults, it&#8217;s pretty well established that the habitual user of large doses of aspirin has a greater risk of popping an ulcer than those who don&#8217;t indulge. In children, this has been more debatable, with<a href=\"http:\/\/www.theannals.com\/content\/44\/3\/489.abstract\"> large RCTs comparing paracetamol and ibuprofen<\/a> showing no difference in adverse effect rates. A very<a href=\"http:\/\/adc.bmj.com\/content\/98\/3\/218.full\"> large cohort of patients in Italy<\/a>\u00a0has been analysed to demonstrate that, as with adults, those kids who&#8217;ve been given NSAIDs compared to no drugs have a higher rate (OR ~3 ) of admission with proper, proven, upper GI complications. The same study shows that the best guess for paracetamol, when compared to no drugs, is OR ~2.<\/p>\n<p>Case closed? NSAIDs evil? Worse than paracetamol? P&#8217;raphs not, m&#8217;lud. If we examine the confidence intervals (a rough &amp; ready way of seeing if two things are <a href=\"https:\/\/stg-blogs.bmj.com\/adc-archimedes\/2012\/01\/23\/its-all-the-same\/\">equivalent, inferior\/superior, or ignorant<\/a>) then we see:<\/p>\n<pre>NSAID       2.9 (2.1 to 4.0)<\/pre>\n<pre>Paracetamol 2.0 (1.5 to 2.6)<\/pre>\n<pre>Both        3.1 (1.5 to 6.2)<\/pre>\n<p>There&#8217;s no classical statistically significant evidence here that paracetamol is safer (the data would support it being worse &#8211; could be 2.6 vs 2.1 NSAID, and both may be safest of all OR 1.5) but the\u00a0<em>balance of probability<\/em> rather than proof would sit with the paracetamol being kinder.<\/p>\n<p>The next step in undertaking the balancing should be to <a href=\"https:\/\/stg-blogs.bmj.com\/adc-archimedes\/2013\/02\/12\/chorio-and-nec\/\">look at the absolute rates involved<\/a>, to calculate the meaning of this to an individual family. The paper estimates an absolute rate of problems of 2.4 \/ 10,000 ED visits. If even 1 in 10 children taking analgesics attended the ED, this would be 2.4 \/ 100,000 children. Again, taking an extreme case of this being the non-drug rate, and the point estimates of the OR for common analgesics leads an NNH of 20800 children for NSAIDs vs. nothing \u00a0or 41600 children for NSAIDs vs paracetamol.<\/p>\n<p>Does this alter your view of the initial findings?<!--TrendMD v2.4.8--><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>There&#8217;s something to be said for papers that state the obvious. That&#8217;s generally that it&#8217;s not actually obvious until it&#8217;s been shown to be the case, &#8217;cause it always might have been different. (For those of you who struggle with the idea about studying the obvious, have listen to this superb paper by Ruth Gilbert [&#8230;]<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"btn btn-secondary understrap-read-more-link\" href=\"https:\/\/stg-blogs.bmj.com\/adc\/2013\/02\/27\/nsaids-cause-ulcers-dog-bites-man\/\">Read More&#8230;<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[79],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-332","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-archimedes"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/stg-blogs.bmj.com\/adc\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/332","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/stg-blogs.bmj.com\/adc\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/stg-blogs.bmj.com\/adc\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stg-blogs.bmj.com\/adc\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stg-blogs.bmj.com\/adc\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=332"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/stg-blogs.bmj.com\/adc\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/332\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/stg-blogs.bmj.com\/adc\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=332"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stg-blogs.bmj.com\/adc\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=332"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stg-blogs.bmj.com\/adc\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=332"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}